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Old 12-27-2007, 10:11 AM   #1
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Lightbulb BSAC failure to require medical may have killed novice diver

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http://www.cdnn.info/news/safety/s071220.html
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Old 12-27-2007, 10:20 AM   #2
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When signing up for a class here in the US you have to sign a waver and say "no" to a whole bunch of medical conditions. If you say "yes" to any of them, you have to get a doctor's note. Anybody who wants to can lie, and nobody checks.
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Old 12-27-2007, 10:23 AM   #3
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I don't think diving is alone in that problem, Ken. I have come across similar 'truth stretching' when people were learning to fly (I used to go flying every weekend at a local school and sometimes it was very obvious that the would-be pilot trainee wasn't exactly healthy but they always said there was no problem) and when learning to dive heavy lorries as well.

I think if someone wants to do a sport (or anything) badly enough, they will lie if they feel that being truthful will stop them doing what they want. 'It'll never happen to me' attitude.
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You're exactly right, Ally. It's really a liability issue. I told them I don't smoke and the instructor winked.
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Old 12-27-2007, 10:37 AM   #5
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How can a dive school (or anywhere that actively encourages sport or something with risk involved) ever completely be assured that the person they are teaching is 100% fit on any given day?

It is not possible.

Everyone who takes part in any form of training is there on trust that they are fit and healthy. They cannot be refused just cos they 'look' ill...it has to be proven and no-one can be forced to be medically checked before each dive infront of the diver trainer. Just not feasible. A bad headcold could potentially kill you...a sneeze fit when driving could lose you control of a vehicle...
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This was a sad incident but I believe that the CDNN reporting was unfortunate if not downright incorrect in its headline.

This type of diving incident is not as rare as we would like to believe. However, the inquest recorded a verdict of death by natural causes. The British Sub Aqua Club had done all in it's power to ensure that the gentleman was 'fit to dive'. Indeed, the BSAC did until 2007 insist on annual medicals which unfortunately partly impacted on their recruitment of new people into the sport. Lots of people decided that the cost of the medical (which some argued was not really 'geared' to ensuring their fitness to dive) added to the costs for training, materials and finally scuba equipment was just too prohibitive for them to take up the sport. BSAC decided that the same sort of 'self assessment' questionnaire was a sensible way to go. Other diving agencies have been using these questionnaires for years.

It was a little dismaying to read that the Chairman of the guy's club actually said that these self-certified medicals were based on how you feel at the time. This is, of course, not the case. The questionnaire is based around ascertaining whether there is a predisposition to any long term conditions that could preclude that person from diving.

I think that this unfortunate incident has brought one question to light. Should Michael Morvan have had a full medical would that not have put his livelihood as a taxi driver at risk? If he was suffering from chronic heart disease why hadn't the company that he worked for not ensured that yearly medical checks were not carried out?
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